major hasan that he actually did harbor deeply disturbing views about america's involvement in iraq and afghanistan and he carried around a card, remember, geraldo, that this is basically, you know, with jihadist brand line on it. okay. let's not forget that. >> i'm not forgetting anything. did i argue with o'reilly when hasan massacre happened saying, wait a second, is he truly motivated by his radical religious politics or is he just a nut job? in this case i think it will become clear because of who he was targeting that he is indeed a homegrown domestic terrorist. i caution everybody. in 2009, the same year that hasan killed 13 of our dear g.i.'s at fort hood, earlier that year a sergeant named john russell, a white guy from texas killed five of his fellow g.i.'s in baghdad. so, you know, we don't call him a texas terrorist or a christian terrorist. we have to be very careful. >> laura: you still think we don't have a problem with radicalization of men, mostly men, in the united states who have made their way into, you know, these very important positions, who carry and harbor grudges and have